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Waaldijk Frank, a former area-in-charge resigned Dutch Chari, posted this comment which follows previous remarks 4d-Don on October Chari messages, homosexuality and AIDS. Here is his message, reshaped by myself. He does not see any insult on my part, I wish I could speak Dutch as he speaks French fluently.

Frank said ...

Don has written a commentary on the previous message:

Chari, in his October 2010 speech to preceptors, points (with three fingers pointing at him- same) a finger at the Pope Catholic, who apparently has offered a special prayer for the poor who are suffering from AIDS ... Chari's called the "moral degradation" (moral degradation) ... because the Pope has not n'offert prayers for those suffering from other diseases (especially at this time) ... And
Sahaj Marg (tm) them, they pray for peace to be coated the UN flag and have a bit of credibility with people who do not know ... while declaring war against their "old tutors and prefects who did not serve Chari ...
And the "special prayer" for peace, while forgetting floods, earthquakes, fires, etc.. ... etc.. ... For them it is a sign of "holiness" ... or SPIRITUALITY!

I saw that the UN has a "high commissioner" [High Commissioner] to the rights Rights, Navanethem Pillay and her name has recently published a speech in the Washington Post on `Homophobia, The Violence of Intolerance." [Homophobia, Violence Intolerance] (see here: http:/ / www.un.org / ecosocdev / geninfo / afrec / newrels / homophobia.html :

There, she says it is a clear responsibility of authority figures to fight against discrimination against homosexual people:

"as important as decriminalization Goal Is, It Is Only a first step. We know from experience in Those Countries That Have Already removed criminal penalties thats great, Concerted efforts are needed to counter discrimination and homophobia, including both legislative and educational initiatives. Here again, we all have a role to play, particularly those in positions of authority and influence — including politicians, community leaders, teachers and journalists.
Sadly, too often those who should be exercising restraint or using their influence to promote tolerance do just the opposite, reinforcing popular prejudice."

Traduction d’Elodie :
« Mais aussi importante que soit la décriminalisation, ce n'est qu'une première étape. Nous savons d'après l’expérience des pays qui ont déjà abandonné criminal sanctions that concerted efforts are needed to fight against discrimination and homophobia, including legislative and educational initiatives. Again, we all have a role to play, especially those in positions of authority and influence - including politicians, community leaders, teachers and journalists.
Unfortunately, too often those who should exercise restraint and use their influence to promote tolerance do exactly the contrary, they reinforce popular prejudices. "

Me I do not understand how in the ashrams, for example Vrads Sande- ils veulent fêter le jour des droits de l’Homme (de l'ONU) quand leur maître dit dans son discours du 12 octobre (comme Don l’a indiqué) :

"...People like Bill Gates, he is willing to give billions, for AIDS. Even the pope, when Babuji Maharaj and I were [unintelligible] some years ago, said a special prayer for AIDS sufferers. This shows our moral degradation, you see. They don't want the tuberculotic patients, paralytic patients, heart patients..., the idea being that these people are rich enough to afford their own cure.
THAT is moral degradation, when a pope says [Chari chuckles] a special prayer [chuckles again].
So you see, It Is From Below to the top or The Other Way down ... when churches condone same-sex marriages, same-sex marriages Perform. Soon Will Come a Day When ... Perhaps in Gold ... [Unintelligible place names] you'll find a man Marrying a cow. "


" ... People like Bill Gates are ready to give billions to AIDS. Even the pope, when Babuji Maharaj and I were [unintelligible] a few years ago, he said a special prayer for AIDS patients. This shows our moral decline, you see. They do not want TB patients, patients palsy, cardiac patients ... the idea being that these people are rich enough to afford their own healing.
is the moral degradation, when a pope said [Chari laughs] a special prayer [more laughter].
So you see, it's the bottom upwards or downwards in the other direction ... when churches condone same-sex marriages, celebrate same-sex marriages. Soon the day will come when perhaps ... or ... [Place name unintelligible], you will find a man to marry a cow. "

(extract Speaking of October 12, 2010 Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari in, find here: http://www.sahajmarg.org/audio/talks/oct-12-2010-chennai , audio in English)

had better listen former Archbishop Desmond Tutu who said:
"Whenever one group of Human Beings IS Treated as inferior to Another, hatred and intolerance Will Triumph."
"Every time a group of human beings is considered inferior to another, it is hatred and intolerance that triumph."

Frank Waaldijk

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